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  is the big show on 1914 at Service Meeting evidence of factions in the GB?

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  sometimes the gb do end runs around each other, as when freddie franz didn't agree with the whole governing body concept and spoke against it at the gilead graduation.

  could this video/demonstration at the service meeting tonight on why they believe in 1914 and how to explain it to others be an effort to bolster that belief because there is a challange coming against it by factions within?

  i guess we can't really tell but i wouldn't put it past the boneheads running the society.

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  2. Serve as a test run of how video from the organization can be used to supplement the meetings and perhaps reduce dependence on the need for qualified brothers at the local level. Remember that the org is suffering from a need for more qualified men to serve as elders. If meeting parts can be pre-recorded by qualified brothers at headquarters, then that reduces/alleviates the need for qualified brothers to give talks, at the local level.

  I noticed a video monitor mounted up on the stage the other day when I was in a Kingdum Hall. Makes sense that more and more they will use a pre recorded video feed from the mother organization thus cutting out the middle men elders and the sheep will get the "spiritual food" direct from the GB. More controls from the GB. Like someone else mentioned on here it reminds me of George Orwell's " Nineteen Eighty-Four ".
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  is the big show on 1914 at Service Meeting evidence of factions in the GB?

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  2. beliefs

  sometimes the gb do end runs around each other, as when freddie franz didn't agree with the whole governing body concept and spoke against it at the gilead graduation.

  could this video/demonstration at the service meeting tonight on why they believe in 1914 and how to explain it to others be an effort to bolster that belief because there is a challange coming against it by factions within?

  i guess we can't really tell but i wouldn't put it past the boneheads running the society.

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  If they don't keep pushing the 1914 or end of days message, what else is left? Then what reason do the average rank and file members have to keep going to the meetings and banging on doors? As an adventist religion it is very important to keep setting dates to keep the rank and file in line. Otherwise the religion (cult) will fall apart.
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  HELP! Elder bombarded me with scripture...& I don't know what to do.

  by Smoky in

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  i have been lurking on this site for many years.

  i rarely post anything, because my english isnt the best and not sure if anyone understands.

  i just recently had a run in with an elder, have not seen him in a few years.

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  anyway, i just thought there was a way thru scripture to argue against.

  That reasoning won't work as they have heard it all before and will probably have another scripture or interpretation to counter any arguments you bring up. Best to just say we will agree to disagree and go your separate ways.
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  November 1 1960 QFR

  by hoser in

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  questions from readers.

  please answer my question in the watchtower.unsigned.. among the many readers of the watchtower who write in for information are some who ask personal questions on which they want a scriptural answer, but who give no name or address.

  others give an address but no name.

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  Current policy is that readers only ask questions that the Excrete Slave has seen fit to discuss already in the litterature.

  In other words"don't think or ask questions beyond what we say."

  Andthey say they are not a cult.....

  I wrote a letter to the society years ago in regards to interpretation well studying their book "Then Is Finished The Mystery Of God" and got the typical convoluted response you get from the WT. I read the response one way and my brother in law interpreted another way, so it didn't really answer my question. Some spirit direct organization.
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  HELP! Elder bombarded me with scripture...& I don't know what to do.

  by Smoky in

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  i have been lurking on this site for many years.

  i rarely post anything, because my english isnt the best and not sure if anyone understands.

  i just recently had a run in with an elder, have not seen him in a few years.

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  Remember these elders have no authority or power over you unless you give them that.
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  Evolution and spirits

  by Chris Tann in

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  as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

  however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

  i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

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  I remember in my JW youth how we would hear about these horror demonic stories but it was always a friend of a friend. No real proof. Also the mind can play tricks with a fertile imaginations. I am not saying they don't exist but until someone comes forward with scientific proof there is no evidence they exist.
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  Bible - War in heaven - Satan cast to earth - Why?

  by berrygerry in

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  reading the oct 1 1953 wt about gog of magog because of the posts about the changes of identity.. basic question:.

  why would satan (whether gog or not) be cast to the earth?.

  why not cast him to quadrant 4 of the galaxy?.

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  I certainly HOPE that since this was published in 1953 even modern Witnesses can see the absolute silliness of such idle speculation. In my opinion, there is no 'Satan' nor is there a 'Jehovah', a 'Heaven' or any of that made-up Bible stuff. Most intelligent people today see the value in living life IN THE PRESENT, not in obsessing over Bible stories written thousands of years ago. Whatever is true or not true will be shown in due time, and we can't change the outcome either way, so why worry about it??? In my opinion, when we die it is THE END of us....we are dead and gone, forever. No Paradise Earth. No Heaven. That's all, Folks!! So live your live NOW, and find happiness to the best of your ability. That's my advice.

  Agree with you 100%. Don't worry about what has happened in the past or what is to happen in the future but live for the present.
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  news item...9 yr old baptised

  by returnvisit in

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  grrrrrrrrrrrrr!.

  check out website for dunedin, nzs newspaper www.odt.co.nz re the 9yr old that got baptised at the convention in dunedin this last weekend... can't you just hear everyone there gushing about it??.

  as i said grrrrrrrrrrrrr .

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  I think I was about 18 years old and was too young to realize the significance in what I was doing.
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  Convention new book reveals "GROUP 2" of the 1914 generation...the horror.

  by Witness 007 in

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  gods kingdom rules!

  the convention book released yesterday....say hi to group 2 of the 1914 generation!!

  a graph shows group 1 being fred franz john barr etc...with a group 2 consisting of the current young faithful slaves we "met" the "group ones.

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  William, yes they have added a third group, the "sanderson class' These are the newly "anointed" that had no contact with the first group, because they were born or more precisely were received the 'heavenly calling' after the likes of Freddy Franz died. These new ones are not Overlappers

  Then they will just keep pushing the date further and further into the future. It makes me sick that people 40 years ago pinned all their hopes and died on the premise of these now failed prophecies.
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  September 24, 2014 BOE

  by wifibandit in

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  At the memorial service I attended the other day the last comment by the elder was this October it is 100 years of Jesus reign. Outsiders in the audience must have been rolling their eyes with this comment. Makes the dubs out as what they are a bunch of wacko's. I also seen they had a flat screen TV on the wall for I guess the GB broadcasts.